8MM (1999)

 


 

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A private investigator is hired to discover if a \”snuff film\” is authentic or not. Full summary »

Genre: Crime,Mystery,Thriller

8MM (1999)
   
Release Date: 26 February 1999 (USA)
Country: USA , Germany
Director: Joel Schumacher
Cast:
  • Nicolas Cage
  • Joaquin Phoenix
  • James Gandolfini
  • Peter Stormare
  • Anthony Heald
  • Chris Bauer
  • Catherine Keener
  • Myra Carter
  • Amy Morton
  • Jenny Powell
  • Anne Gee Byrd
  • Jack Betts
  • Luis Oropeza
  • Rachel Singer
  • Don Creech


33 Responses to 8MM (1999)

  1. Anonymous
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  2. Anonymous
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  3. Spotlight_Music
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    That’s the age old question. People want to know if REAL snuff films actually do exist. Well, it depends on how you look at it.

    There have been a few convicted killers who did film the torture, rape and murder of their victims. That would be a REAL snuff film. So, YES, they have been made.

    Now, I assume (and I hope) those tapes were destroyed by the police after they were done being used as evidence. So, if there was only a single copy made and that copy was destroyed then NO, it does not exist. But, once again, it was made.

    In all the true crime stories that I’ve read on this subject, there’s one question that never seemed to pop up in the articles, "Were additional copies made?" It’s not hard to imagine that one or two of these films were given to other people before the killers got caught and, if they’re in circulation (so to speak) other people can probably get them. But, it’s probably a very small group of people and you know they’re not gonna run around and advertise the fact that they have something like this in their collection. So, if they do get brave enough to pass it on to someone else, more than likely, they’re gonna charge and arm and a leg (no pun intended) for it.

  4. pajocoyle
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    When Nick Cage gets home and goes in to his baby’s room – obviously to have sex with it – because he is so screwed up after the case, and the baby looks at him as if to say ‘don’t even try it’. Did he imagine the baby looking at him as if to say ‘don’t even try it’ as a conscience thing or what?

  5. Anonymous
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  6. JMFOX
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    This line cracks me up

  7. Roy_Munson2004
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    …when Tom calls the victim’s mother to get permission to punish the man responsible for her dauther’s death was phenomenal?

    I think Ebert makes reference to it in his review. Can’t think of another scene quite like it in any other film.

    Haven’t seen this in years but I think I should give it another chance.

    B/c I was a HUGE fan of Se7en and Cage is one of my favorite actors, I had real high hopes … and then was letdown. I think it’s time to revisit it.

    I’ve never forgotten that scene.

    Home-schooling is child abuse

  8. lifeispeachy3214
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    Im a 22 year old guy, and a product of the internet generation so obviously ive looked at my fair share of online porn. After watching this movie the other night I can’t watch porn anymore because I feel really guilty for the girls now. All I think about is sleez bags like James Gandolfini’s character molesting and taking advantage of the girls in the film. I think about the girls broken dreams and most likely awful life they’ve had thats led them to choosing this as a means of income. Its disgusting if you actually think about what dirt balls these young 20 year old girls have to impress in order to be filmed. Im glad I watched this movie, which i thought was very good, because it opened my eyes more to the digusting realities of the porn industry.

    "For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm." – Conan

  9. gatsu97
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    First, I must say I really love this movie. To me it’s one of the best thriller ever done but there’s only one tiny thing that does annoy me everytime I watch it and this is when Cage is watching the snuff for the first time. I think he’s overacting at this moment, espacially when Machine slap the girl. The way Cage jumps in his chair doesn’t feel right for me. He could have just look at it with disgust instead.

  10. necroticfuzzfunk
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    Debate over

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/oct/01/ameliagentleman.philipwillan

    What’s interesting is how old the story is, yet people still deny Snuff is real. Never underestimate the power of denial!

  11. [email protected]
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    Why the arabic influence? Was Peter Stormare supposed to look like an Arab? What’s the link?

  12. Stoidy
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    I still think this movie has one of the most intense last 40 minutes in movie history……………it really feels like you’re getting 3 different climaxes back to back.

    Also, one of the most effectively disturbing movies ever…….which takes skill to create on screen.

    6.1 is a major understatement I think.

    Also, do any of you remember seeing this in the theatre? Yeah, I’ll never forget my experience watching it…….SEVERAL people in the theatre thought some of the most disturbing parts were laugh out loud funny…….I left the theatre watching my back.

  13. WllmShakespeare
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    I like at the beginning when he gets home right away his wife is like "Have you been smoking! WAAH" Oh gawd, I cannot STAND people like that! These idiots with super sensitve noses for cigarettes. "Yeah, honey I`ve been smoking, have you been pissing? Because you stink like a race horse" I quit smoking a long tiime ago but these a-holes who are just obsessed with non-smoking just get on my nerves to no end. First it was smoking was bad, then second hand smoke was bad, now the mere smell of it is bad. It`s like F you, get a life loser.

  14. Retinend
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    Easily the most debated aspect of this movie is the third act, where Nick Cage takes it upon himself to punish (murder) the remaining villains who were involved in the making of the snuff film.

    In the context of /watching a movie/, I didn’t really find it shocking to see a bit of vigilantism dealt upon a couple of such utter bastards. It’s also pretty common theme in Hollywood blockbusters (I didn’t hear similar debate for Road House), but I see that it’s highly hypocritical for a film, which moralises all the way through, to end on such a self-righteous and violent note.

    But is this really the case? Is it possible that the writer and Schumacher wanted to /show/ the violence, but /not/ to condone it? I realise that Welles suffers no negative consequences for his actions, but to say that the director of HENRY: PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER condoned /his/ protagonist’s actions just because he suffered no retribution at the end would be far too simplistic an interpretation; wholly erroneous, in fact.

  15. anchorman360
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    This is the only one of Joel Schumacher’s movies that I have really liked. I even thought that Falling Down,The Client, and A Time to Kill were just OK movies. I think a lot of this is because of Cage and Phoenix. Does anyone agree with me or do you people enjoy Joel’s work?

  16. millspeeps
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    Sorry, its been like six or seven years since I’ve seen this film, yet the image of the guy still sticks in my head. If this has already been addressed in another topic thread then I apologize for not knowing.

    The guy is a porn salesman of sorts, one whom Max and Tom believe they are purchasing authentic snuff from, but later on I think they conclude that what they bought is fake. He’s skinny, wearing a particular kind of outfit, with long hair if I remember right. There was something about his speech patterns too, something that made me think he had a hint of an accent, and he kept an eerie kind of smile on his face while delivering his lines. His lines went something like this:

    Mystery Guy: "Yeah, but its more fun this way, I raise the price and you get pissed off! Take it or leave it!"

    Nicholas Cage(Tom): "Alright, fine but is it real?"

    Mystery Guy: "Sickest *beep* you’ll ever see!"

    I know, you probably think I just watched it, but truth be told this character and his abnormal behavior left an impression on me. If anyone could tell me the actor playing him I would appreciate it.

    The Eye in the Sky

  17. bemorecynical2001
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    At least this is my favorite, a very good, honest moment.

    Max: Do you get turned on at places like that?

    Tom: NO, I don’t

    Max: But you don’t exactly get turned off either.

    I thought to myself, bingo!

  18. Misanthropic_Humanist
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    the topic sums it up

  19. Mark-85-LA
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    If it were me, I’d probably stay for dinner and keep her company. She was attractive, to me at least.

    This is a ’70s porno. You know how I can tell? Because the guy’s dick has sideburns

  20. Pizzacat0
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    Hey.

    It would be realy great if someone could suggest any similar films like 8mm. Investigations, dark atmosphere and stuff like that.

    Thanks.

    My IMDB votes: http://imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=20915807

  21. popularru
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    so why it is so underrated? i think it shoul be 7.8 or 7.9

  22. FirebirdCamaro
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    That badass 2 door coupe that Gandolfini drove in the movie, am I wrong, or was that an early 70’s Stutz Blackhawk (Pontiac Grand Prix-based)?

    L: I’m talking about a little place called Aspen

    H: I don’t know Lloyd, the french are a ssholes

  23. kumar_50
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    i saw it for the 1st time when i was 13. this movie freaked me out big time but was very intrigued by it. AWESOME MOVIE.

  24. Mark-85-LA
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    My first thought was him saying he was George Costanza, I’m unemployed and live with my mother. He did have the bald head and glasses. lol.

    This is a ’70s porno. You know how I can tell? Because the guy’s dick has sideburns

  25. Johnlindsey289
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    Which movie about torture and snuff is better?

    "and then i escaped on a giant flying porcupine"- "Pinocchio and The Emperor of the Night.

  26. han-royce
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    im sure that the guy who plays the machine in this film is the detective in true blood?

  27. gnob4455
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    Both of these gritty thrillers were written by the same writer. I have seen Se7en loads of times and love it, definitally one of my favorite thrillers. I just saw 8MM last night with quite low expectations, considering I have not heard much about it and it has a meager 6.3 rating on this site. But I’ve seen like everything at blockbuster it seems like so I rented 8MM. Well, as I just said I decided to watch 8MM last night and I saw so many similarities between this and se7en..both movies had that gritty criminal underworld feel to them, both had the main murderers as creepy average looking white men. Not to mention both movies were very, very good. 8MM is one of the more under-rated movies I have seen in a while, and will be recomending it to many people now. so to anyone reading this who hasnt seen 8MM (or se7en for that matter) stop reading these message boards and go see those movies! Peace

  28. antonasmodeus
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    Check out Peter Stormare as "Slippery Pete" in ‘The Frogger’ – very funny stuff! Who knew Dino Velvet was such a doofus before he became an underground porn director involved with snuff films.

  29. davideo-2
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    What would you have done in his situation? Naturally, he wanted justice for Mary-Ann but the tape being destroyed had robbed any chance of that but can that ever justify what he did? Killing them may have been the only way he saw of serving justice to the girl but in doing so he broke the law and showed no mercy, redducing himself to a barbarian. Any thoghts?

  30. cohoxjoe
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    At the very end of the film when tom wells gets his mail, and is reading the thank you note from mary anne’s mom there is also a post card in the mail. When he is about to open the thank you note you can see it, it says something about "L.A. getting bad" and "I had to go home". I tried to pause the movie to read the whole thing, but could only make out bits and pieces. To me it appeared like it might be from mary anne…? Any insight on this would be appreciated.

  31. mikedonn71
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    I thought it was weird the way he was licking his tongue, when he was about to kill that kid they had all tied up and gagged. It’s like Machine wanted to dick him in his butt.

  32. allthewine
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    Is it true he disowned this film?

    I always felt this movie could have been something pretty amazing, but it makes sense that Walker hated it.

    The film falls apart pretty earlier on, was this because they changed Walkers script?

  33. Franky_NZ
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    There was a song playing the scene when him and Max were scoping out different venues.

    It was a sort of techno/indian jam, was pretty cool.

    WASN’T that deathmetal Machine was listening to btw. In case you were thinking lol.

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