La leggenda del pianista sull'oceano (1998)

 


 

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Shortly after the Second World War, Max, a transplanted American, visits an English pawn shop to sell his trumpet. The shopkeeper recognizes the tune Max plays as one on a wax master of an unreleased recording, discovered and restored from shards found in a piano salvaged from a cruise ship turned hospital ship, now slated for demolition. This chance discovery prompts a story from Max, which he relates both to the shopkeeper and later to the official responsible for the doomed vessel, for Max is a born storyteller. Though now down on his luck and disillusioned by his wartime experiences, the New Orleans-born Max was once an enthusiastic and gifted young jazz musician, whose longest gig was several years with the house band aboard the Virginian, a posh cruise ship. While gaining his sea legs, he was befriended by another young man, the pianist in the same band, whose long unlikely name was Danny Boodman T.D. Lemons 1900, though everyone just called him 1900, the year of his birth. Abandoned in first class by his immigrant parents, 1900 was found and adopted by Danny, a stoker, and raised in the engine rooms, learning to read by reading horseracing reports to his adoptive dad. After Danny\’s death in an accident, 1900 remained on the ship. Increasingly lured by the sound of the piano in the first-class ballroom, he eventually became a gifted pianist, a great jazz improvisationist, a composer of rich modern music inspired by his intense observation of the life around him, the stories passengers on all levels of the ship trusted him enough to tell. He also grew up to be a charming, iconoclastic young man, at once shrewd and oddly innocent. His talent earned him such accolades that he was challenged by, and bested Jelly Roll Morton in an intense piano duel that had poor Max chewing paper on the sofa in agonies of suspense. And yet for all the richness and variety of his musical expression, he never left the ship, except almost, once, in the aftermath of his infatuation with a beautiful young woman immigrant who inspired the music committed to the master Max discovers in the pawnshop. Max realizes that 1900 must still be on the ship, and determines to find him, and to find out once and for all why he has so consistently refused to leave.

Written by
GMBaxter

Genre: Drama,Fantasy,Music,Romance

La leggenda del pianista sull'oceano (1998)
   
Release Date: 28 October 1998 (Italy)
Country: Italy
Director: Giuseppe Tornatore
Cast:
  • Tim Roth
  • Pruitt Taylor Vince
  • Bill Nunn
  • Clarence Williams III
  • Mélanie Thierry
  • Gabriele Lavia
  • Peter Vaughan
  • Niall O'Brien
  • Alberto Vazquez
  • Luigi De Luca
  • Femi Elufowojo
  • Nigel Fan
  • Roger Monk
  • Leonid Zaslavski
  • Bernard Padden


33 Responses to La leggenda del pianista sull'oceano (1998)

  1. carpet_seller
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    Anyone know why the webpages selling the original length dvd say the Aspect Ratio is

    2.35:1 16:9

    Which doesn’t make any sense, it’s either one or the other!

  2. Tuxido3000
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    what the hell is with the eye thing Pruitt Taylor Vince keeps doing? this is like one of my fav movies but that always takes a little bit away from it.

  3. leo_g86
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    03.00 Am they showed this film in Sweden, can you belive it? This is the time they usualy show horror B-movies when the people who still are awake are only the teens without any a life. I was so surprised to see this movie was a drama, not only that but a wonderful drama, one which made me cry…

    How come I had never heard of this film? Why did it not win 7-10 oscars, it came at the same time as titanic, has the same epic feeling in it but has much better actors and this one really touches our hearths..

    I was surprised to see that the film is Italian, but now it makes sense as it simply doesn’t follow any kind of order I am used to in other films. It i´s just such an inteligent and moving film. A very intelectual movie which goes straight to the hearth, that is very, very unusual I think.

  4. Bordo15
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    I love this movie dearly, and although it is not Tornatore’s greatest, it fits into my top 5. No one can understand the movie if they aren’t intellectual. There are a lot of philosophys in the movie and to appreciate the movie, you have to get your mind going a lot. Many of the things Roth and Vince say throughout the movie are things only loners like they are can possibly think of. Only the true creative movie mind and think up diolague like this. Besides this, the movie is excellent along with acting. One of Roth’s greatest and abviously Vince’s greatest.

  5. isabelchong-696-346153
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    I have been looking but could not find that piece of music in the soundtrack CD. Could someone tell me what the name of the piece 1900 played so incredibly fast that won the duel is?

    Why is it not in the soundtrack CD?

    Could such a piece be performed by a human player? Or is it a computer generated piece? Who played it in real life?

    Why no one seems to be curious about this piece? I was so impressed by it.

  6. tinkerchel
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    It says on imbd that this is in English and French. Somehow i only seem to find an Italian version.

    Could anyone please tell me what language the original version is in?

    Thanks in advance!!

  7. ccs1969
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    I heard good things about this movie from a friend and the reviews on this site. Then I saw it, and what can I say, but it’s utter schlock. The plot is contrived, the writing is clichéd and the characters are so one-dimensional, I could barely stand to watch the entire film. Roth’s performance and the art direction/cinematography are superb, but it can’t save a plot that makes Forrest Gump look like a documentary.

    A piano duel? Am I supposed to be really excited about that? The winner wasn’t clear to me except for the utter predictability that 1900 was supposed to win, because his buddy was sure he wouldn’t. On a musical level, all he did was play faster than Jelly Roll Morton. Faster does not equal better.

    This is a personal bias, but I prefer to see movies that are all fiction or all history. Mixing a historical figure like Jelly Roll Morton into a fictional world just seems like a cop-out to me.

  8. josei09
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    Does having more choice bring more happiness? You may think that it does – since having more things to choose from implies more freedom to choose what is best for you. Barry Schwartz, Erich Fromm and the pianist from the movie show us that it doesn’t.

    Schwartz in his conference "The paradox of choice" (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6127548813950043200&q=engedu), describes several experiments he has made in various environments, say supermarkets, where he has people choose among three kinds of a certain product on some occasions, and at other times he has them choose among dozens of kinds. He finds that having more choice increases anguish in not being sure about what to choose, and more anxiety afterwards because of doubts about having really chosen the best option. And the more expensive the item, the greater the anguish.

    Erich Fromm in his book "Fear of freedom" also deals indirectly with the paradox of choice. He explains the existence of religions and of authoritarian regimes; some people actually do not like to be free to choose, that’s why they submit to religious or other authorities.

    But the best demostration is from our pianist in his last dialogue with his friend -something like: "Where does it end – the city? which girl? which job? which street? My piano has 88 keys, and if it had a million I wouldn’t be able to make any music. What music, what life, could I make in an infinite city?"

    Given these arguments, would you like to be less free to choose? Do we really need 99 television channels and about as many types of bottled plain water?.

  9. sandfleas2008
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    I’m wondering why both 1900 & Pops call Max "Cohen," when that clearly isn’t his name. I assume it was a perhaps common nickname used generically like ‘Mack’ or ‘Buddy,’ but wonder if anyone can confirm this being in vogue during the period the film is set in. Any help appreciated!

    The process of getting there is the quality of being there

  10. TerryGilliamFan
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    I think this movie doesn’t get nearly as much credit as it deserves. Anyone agree?

    "We’re all in it together, kid." ~ Harry Tuttle (Brazil)

  11. mcaddress_666
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    maybe its historically accurate but i found it a bit unbeleivable that he didnt smoke, back in the day everyman would be a smoker i presume

    though maybe it was to keep his pure character i dunno

  12. tuomas_ss
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    I know this movie isn’t that rational, but anyway the duel with Jelly Roll got me a little pissed.

    1900 wins by practically just hitting the keys fast enough so he can light his cigarette with a heated up wire. If I remember right it was the same piece Jelly Roll played before him, and it wasn’t really a song at all. The second song by Jelly Roll was definetely superior than any by 1900, so Jelly Roll should have clearly won the duel because 1900 couldn’t beat his performance.

    What the hell was the thing with the heated wire anyway, who knows if Jelly Roll could’ve done the same. I thought it was about who’s better at playing piano, in which case Jelly Roll won it hands down.

  13. low_intensity
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    Can somebody tell me which DVD includes the 165 minutes version of this film. I only can find the 120 minutes version…

  14. Yanksrule-2
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    How did this guy survive for all those years without food or fresh water. also why didn’t he care that he was going to die was he so afraid of land or so attached to that ship that he’d rather die than leave. overall i think it was a great movie but the ending when it blows up ruined the entire film.

  15. lordd789
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    name a few please:

    The Pianist

    Shine

    Immortal Beloved

    The Legend of 1900

    A Song to Remember

    Amadeus

    what others?

  16. anancientrace
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    Sad news from China. &^%&*$£ lawyers and politicians again.

    Not a penny, Moor. I was dreaming last night and a variation of that line was central to that dream. "Take a penny and take this…….."- well I was guilty of same gesture myself yesterday to several boys who were not lost at all. Lost Boys Calling and

    SUBJECT: LOST BOYS AT WAR WITH MODERNITY – AN IMPORTANT ADVANCE IN HUMAN RIGHTS

    ANAGRAM: SORRY TIMOTHY BLOW IT – WASTE DNA – CHINA (MANS HUNT) VAMPIRE DONATING ART

    The thing about the Tim Roth’s character was he did all his growing and developing in effectually a cocoon. A ship. Brother, was he troubled but what did people expect? The famous pianist Jelly Roll Morton – at least in the film – felt challenged rather than welcomed an obviously talented musician and Nasty Tim was then seen. Morton should have stopped after the first display by 1900 but in the duel he went on to further humilition and yet the land bound morons won. Because 1900 never really challenged them on literally their own ground. A fairy story of course and what wonderful music.

    Subject: THE LEGEND OF NINETEEN HUNDRED BRACKETS NINETEEN NINETY ONE

    Anagram: NEOCON INN UNGENTEEL SEEN KINDHEART BENEFIT THEY RENTED END

  17. m_haeri
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    The piano that Tim Roth played in this movie was unbelievable!

    I wonder if he really played the piano himself or it was the cinematography and special effects?

    Anyone has any information from his background and if he also played piano in any of those more than 60 movies he acted?

  18. FallDay
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    What a sweet character. You don’t see too many like him in movies these days.

  19. alwaysthehours666
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    Should’ve been nominated for Oscar

  20. GotaFeeling
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    I was not even watching the film at first; just had it on the channel as I did my morning work. It was this opening sequence that caught my eye. To me the very beginning right until the camera goes into the immigrant man’s eye to see the reflection of the city marks one of the All Time Great passages in film history. I thought it was shot in such an exquisite manner that I was hypnotized ever after.

    I loved the whole movie but this beginning part stands head and shoulders above the rest of it to me. It could have opened any number of movies. To me it symbolizes what America is SUPPOSED to be about. When I read today that the Statue of Liberty is not going to be one of the new Seven World Wonders I had to think of this scene….

    If everyone voting had seen this scene it would be a shoe in.

    Anyone who agrees (or even if you don’t) please chime in!

  21. Anonymous
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    This message has been deleted by the poster

  22. freevers-1
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    The old man never described how his daughter looked, so how does Tim know that the girl is the daughter of the old man?

  23. Anonymous
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  24. BillHurt12575
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    I could have swore i read on wikipedia that the scenes of the decrepit vessel were actually a real ship but I can’t remember the name anyway it’s not there now does anyone know what it might be??

  25. Tuxido3000
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    One of mine was in the Nocturne with no moon scene with “the girls” father

    “life is immense!….can you understand that! …immense”

  26. carface214
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    I figure they had some similarities and difference….both are confined in some kind of place isolated from the rest of the world.

  27. pdmarsay
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    This film has been my favourite since I was 9 years old and I saw it for the first time on a plane in 1998. I have spent a long time trying to track down a copy of the original longer version, which I was very happy and surprised to find out about, only about a year ago, from IMDb. I managed to buy a 2 disc edition online with lots of special features as well, and the the Italian 29 track soundtrack from somewhere else. There are 2 deleted scenes on the DVD,as well as lots more interesting things. A lot of it, including all the menus, is in Italian though, which made it a little difficult for me to navigate sometimes. The following is my best recollection of the parts cut for the 120 minute version, and as I have only seen the longer cut once so far, compared to having seen the shorter one over thirty times, I can’t guarantee that I have remembered absolutely everything. Since seeing the original extended cut, I now consider The Legend of 1900 and La Leggenda del Pianista sull’Oceano to be two different films. The Legend of 1900 of course being the shorter version. In my personal opinion, the longer one is better, and is now my favourite film, with The Legend of 1900 now coming in at second! If you don’t want to know until you’ve seen it for yourself, don’t read on, massive spoilers ahead! Those who wish to continue, scroll down now…

    !!!***SPOILERS***!!!

    First off, several scenes are simply edited differently and so last longer, with a few extra shots and things, such as the opening sequence on board the ship as they arrive at New York, this scene is longer, with more shots of different people of the ship. Max’s voice over is also longer, and he says more things about there being different people on the ship etc…

    The very opening shot is different too, the first thing you see, just for a second or two, is looking down the horn of a trumpet, and a breath coming out of it. Max’s narration is also extended a bit here, too if I remember correctly. Next, when Max is in the music shop, after a bit of slightly extended dialogue, and after the shopkeeper points out the two pianos, in one of which he found the broken record, Max walks over to and sits down at the grand piano, sort of hugs it, and playfully runs his fingers down the keys, playing a string of notes alongside each other, whatever you call that, and smiles and laugh. He then looks worried and shocked when the shopkeeper tells him the ship is going to be blown up. His dialogue with the men at the ship yard is also extended. Also later, when he and the other men are searching the ship for 1900, when they are in the first class ball room, Max starts to act out the Irish band mans introduction the musicians, which then cuts back in time to the Irishman actually introducing them, with a longer introduction, introducing more band members than in the shorter cut.

    Next I can remember is when Danny has the baby 1900 in the engine rooms, he carries him around and sings a sort of Jazzy Blues song called ‘Thanks Danny,’ and all the other workers say the Thanks Danny part.

    Next is during 1900’s childhood, the ships Doctor is giving him a check up, and 1900 asks what his name is. He has a very long German name, and 1900 says something like, "Wow, what a name, if anyone needs to call you in a hurry they’re a goner!" This is referenced again later when Danny is hit by the metal crane hook thing, and another worker has to call the Doctor and can’t say his whole name properly, and stands shouting trying to get the name right.

    Another thing during his childhood is when we see 1900 in the ships kitchen, and he is stealing a big cream pie/cake type thing. All the cooks and chefs etc… know what he’s doing but just watch, thinking it’s funny. When 1900 then tries to leave the kitchen, he walks out backwards, and bumps into the Captains legs! The Captain shouts at him something like, "How many times have I told you not to come up here especially when you’re coming to steal…" and then 1900 slams the cream pie in the Captains face! Right after this we see the Captain shout down at Danny in the boiler rooms about how having 1900 could be illegal, and that he could get in trouble with the law or something. Danny simply shouts back, and this is possibly where 1900 got the tendency to later say such things from, *beep* the law!"

    During all/most of these extra scenes there is more narration from Max, mostly just explaining what is going on, and we get to know more about 1900’s character.

    When 1900 is first walking into the first class section, having gone through the no entry door, as he walks down the corridor, there is a brief couple of shots of 1900 looking through the crack of an ajar door, and seeing a woman pulling some tights high up her leg. He then turns and continues along the corridor, not very amused.

    Around now I remember there being a part where the Captain invites the police aboard to take 1900 off the ship and to an orphanage. The same music plays when the police are searching the ship for him as when later Jelly Roll Morton’s men are chasing 1900. 1900 is not found anywhere, and everyone thinks he is dead. I think they say 22 days pass, or something like that, and no one sees him at all. Then a shiphand bursts in on the Captains room saying there’s an emergency, and the Captain thinks that the ship is sinking, but the man says it’s much worse than that… Then we see the scene where 1900 is first playing the piano. There is also more Max narration here, where he talks about what the Captain must have been thinking.

    Also, before the Magic Waltz on the storm, when Max and 1900 first met, there is a little more with Max stumbling around groaning that he’s lost, and him also narrating that he wanted to jump off the ship he felt so bad, because he wasn’t at all used to being at sea, and was seriously sea sick.

    Next I can remember is after 1900 has played the Tarantella to the third class. The man who we see in the shorter cut who is in a black suit with a bowler hat, and holding a hankerchief over his mouth, Max tells us in narration that he is a Statesman or something who is riding in third class just to hear 1900 play. He afterwards talks to 1900, and asks him to continue playing, but 1900 refuses because they have reached port. The man thinks this is crazy, but goes on to ask 1900 to give an interview. We then cut to later on deck and Max and 1900 and a few others are laughing about what 1900 said in the interview. Max says that 1900 was asked a question like, "what do you like doing when you get back to you hometown?" and then Max says that 1900 said something like, "When I get back to Paris I like to watch the people jumping off the top of the Eiffel Tower and try to guess where they are from by their screams before they go splat." Then there is a quick couple of shots showing some other people starting to throw snowballs at them, as it is/has snowed. 1900 doesn’t join in.

    When Jelly Roll Morton’s men come to talk to 1900 before the duel, it is explained better and more humourously why 1900 is scared of and runs away from the men. He makes another call on the radio, this time to a horse race betting place, and he asks if his ‘Mamma’ is running. The guy on the other end gets annoyed and speaks sarcastically. He says things that confuse and worry 1900 like, "no it’s your sister racing," and, "I know where you are, I’m gonna get you…" So no wonder 1900 jumps so much when right then someone knocks on the door and two people start to chase him around the ship!

    During the duel, there are some small changes, mainly very minor differences in the editing, but also there are some shots in between each piece played in which there are two coal stoker friends of 1900’s, one of whom asks a first class passenger each time whether 1900 has won or lost the duel.

    And next I think is before 1900 decides to get off the ship, and we are back in the present, with Max in the music shop, with the shopkeeper still pointing the gun at him. Max goes into a very passionate speech about paintings falling off walls. This long speech is basically comparing 1900’s sudden decision to leave the ship to a painting randomly falling off a wall after having hung on it for years. In his speech, he goes "Bang" very loudly when he describes a painting suddenly falling. And then when we hear 1900 tell Max that he’s getting off, there is a very fast shot cut in of Max shouting "Bang," again.

    Throughout the film there are many more very small additions and differences, which all come together to make it feel like a very different film, and quite a different experience to the shorter cut. Amoung these are extra lines various characters have, such as the Irish band man, better known for his dancing eyebrows, getting angry at 1900 for spoiling his own orchestrated music, and Max crying while playing with 1900 for the last time before he gets off the ship, and a passenger commenting on it. Also, when 1900 has said goodbye to everyone before getting off the ship, he turns back to them and says, "How the hell do I get off?" and then they all do hand movements in unison to show him how.

    At the very end when Max is just leaving the ship again, after having discovered that 1900 was indeed still there, there is an extension to 1900’s joke about losing an arm and going to heaven, in which he says the man offering him a new arm asks if he would like a black or a white arm, and 1900 says please a white arm, not that he’s rascist, but purely for aesthetic reasons.

    More is also made of 1900’s ability to read peoples faces, with Max narrating about how 1900 discovers so much about people and where they’re from just by looking at they’re faces, how they behave and through little things they say etc…

    Now, in the one of the two deleted scenes, the adult 1900 walks into the first class dining area which is fully set up ready for the next day. It is dark, night time. He comes across lots off glasses on a table, and runs his finger around the rims of some of them, making different musical notes. The start of this one, with him walking into the room and looking around a little, is in the extended cut.

    The other of the two deleted scenes isn’t in the either version at all. It is of 1900 playing the love them he played with the girl outside the window again, but differently, to the first class people gathered round at their various dinner tables. Max asks him about it, saying that it is the first time he has ever heard 1900 repeat a piece. 1900 says that this piece "…won’t go away…" Max proceeds to guess whose face in the room this piece of music belongs to. He guesses wrong a couple of times, jokingly, then he points to the girl sitting quietly at a table with some other people. He guesses her, knowing that it’s her, and 1900 says could be, or maybe.

    Right, thats all I can remember right now, I hope it’s satisfactory and interesting to anyone who has wanted to read this far. If I remember more, with or without seeing it again, I’ll post it here, probably by editing this post. Bye for now! Feel free to post your thoughts/reactions!

    .Peter.D.Marsay.

  28. mensahcarrelle
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    How come?He was absolutely brilliant in it!One of his best performances.

  29. satie-2
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    I just saw the movie for the first time and I’m glad I did.

    A theory I have is whether 1900 existed at all. This is what Max actually says in the beginning of the movie several times, that he did not exist.

    For example, how could 1900 hide that well in that old ship wreckle, without food, for such a long time? It makes no sense. By bringing the phonograph, Max found a way to revoke the fictive person inside his head once again and have a last conversation with him before the ship was blown up to pieces.

    Another example: At the beginning of the movie, Max wondered where the shop owner found that record. He said he found it inside a piano cabinet. But in the final scenes of the movie, the shop owner asks Max who hid the record inside the piano cabinet. Max replied: "I did". How come? Did he find the pieces in the garbage bin where 1900 threw them? If yes, why did he hide them inside the piano cabinet? Likely, the piano is being tuned regularly and they should have been found then unless the piano was being abandoned. My theory is that the piano was Max’s piano and the record was Max’s own.

  30. gulfcoastsurfer
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    Does anyone know if there are plans for an American DVD of the full 160 min. version?

  31. edanna115
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    1900: You rolled out in front of me a keyboard of millions of keys, millions and billions of keys that never end. And that’s the truth Max, that they never end. That keyboard is infinite… and if that keyboard is infinite, then on that keyboard there is no music you can play. You’re sitting on the wrong bench… That is God’s piano.

    Max missed his chance here. He should have replied.

    "Sometimes just have to listen, 1900. That’s all most of us can do."

  32. malkycombat
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    Typical ,you fall for a women and it brings the best out of you , then it all goes tits up and everything falls apart .

  33. ManWithNoUsername
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    Anyone know where I can read or buy the monologue in English?

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