S1m0ne (2002)

 


 

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Genre: Drama,Fantasy,Sci-Fi

S1m0ne (2002)
   
Release Date: 23 August 2002 (USA)
Country: USA
Director: Andrew Niccol
Cast:
  • Al Pacino
  • Benjamin Salisbury
  • Winona Ryder
  • Darnell Williams
  • Jim Rash
  • Ron Perkins
  • Jay Mohr
  • Catherine Keener
  • Evan Rachel Wood
  • Jeffrey Pierce
  • Jeff Williams
  • Rachel Roberts
  • Mitzi Martin
  • Carole Androsky
  • Christopher Neiman


33 Responses to S1m0ne (2002)

  1. elderesek
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    That’s it. Prove me wrong.

    "Money is always important because money is a by-product of success." – Mel Brooks

  2. Mr.Big
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    Genius. A masterpiece.

    The photography/wardrobe/props/acting is absolute perfection.

    The story is poured in hundred yard blocks of unblemished titanium.

    I was also tickled by the number of months required bringing S1m0ne to life.

    The “Petri dish”, sublime, classic, elegant. Nice touch.

    Andrew Niccol is beyond praise. He is quite simply – perfect.

  3. jeffyoung1
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    Am I the only fan of SimOne? It seems like it to me. This movie received a lot of criticism when it came out. I don’t know what the problem was. SimOne never pretended to be anything other than a satire on the following: Hollywood, the film entertainment industry, egocentric actors/actresses, crazy obsessed fans, and the ever-growing dependance on computer-generated technology.

    Remember the early scene of egocentric Nichola Anders (Winona Ryder) getting uppidity with director Victor Taransky? That was a satire on actors who in their early careers are desperate for any kind of work and will literally kiss any director’s backside. But when they reach stardom they turn into a–holes with bs about, ‘creative differences’. The stressed-out zany nuttiness of director Taransky (Al Pacino) is the best satire of all.

    SimOne was ahead of its time. In 2010 anyone with half decent computer skills and a laptop can fabricate anything. It used to be that a photograph was indisputable evidence. Now we all know that any photograph can be ‘doctored’, constructed, fabricated, and altered seamlessly. Let’s just use the word, forged. Look how in 2010 movies are now so dependant on cgi effects. The technology still hasn’t reached maturity although it’s steadily improving. Audiences can still perceive the difference and it’s usually not to their liking. As a traditionalist I’d prefer to see stunt people hired to dress up in costumes and makeup rather than unrealistic, cartoony cgi characters.

    Give Rachel Roberts credit. She wasn’t hired to depict a human character of any depth. She was a computer-generated simulation with limited vocabulary. But in the role she was expected to perform, she was gorgeous and competent. I heard that she lives in Los Angeles now.

  4. blondiechickwooooman
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    I just stopped by to see the ratings and was shocked it was over 3 or not on the top worst 100 list. We always joke around about which movies are the worst of all time and this is one of them, and I was surely shocked that Al would pick to star in this. Oh well maybe I should watch it one more time to see what other people see and try to keep an open mind.

  5. MaximusXXX
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    I did, sure the idea’s been done " a made up person becomes more populair than the person who made it and then that person destroys it and gets charged for murder " but with Pacino it was great.

  6. monkey-B
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    to generate the required pixels for Simone.

    OK, argue with me if you feel you HAVE to, but in THAT particular time, 2001/2002, even Final Fantasy Spirits Within was REALLY ground breaking CGI…though VERY beautiful if i might add. But to generate Simone’s whole "genetic code" required alot more speed than from a single PC/Mac, or whatever he used. Hard drive’s nothing to fill up with information, large amount gigabytes is what people started to store.

    but the speed required for such large data (especially those features used to alter Simone’s personalities), probably needed a helluva lot more than the 4 gigs we use on just a vista. you see behind the scenes on animated movies with all these computers working all at the same time to generate a CGI or two, pixar was pretty much the standard (tho they’ve gotten much better, i must say). but to really pull off that realistic look, i mean REALLY fool people into visual illusion like that, even today we still only touch a fraction key of that kind of physics.

    with today’s technology, its ‘possible’. but even realistic movement is something we’re still kinda struggling with. but in 2001/2002…? need i say more? BUT WHAT DO I CARE RIGHT?! ITS JUST A MOVIE (you will most likely say to shoot me down)!

    Monkey B is not a person…Monkey is a soul, that LIVES, in many bodies.

  7. Captain_Wesker
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    Apparently, this movie references the anime Macross Plus, but asides from the virtual idol/actor, I can’t tell how. Does anyone here know?



    It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

  8. francodelrosario
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    I DON’T mean that in a good way. Did anyone else notice this? I was practically irritated with how different all the events in the movie would have turned out in real life. Let me recap many of these plot points encountered in the movie.

    Firstly, there’s the WHOLE WORLD (including everyone in the mainstream media) falling deeply in love over an actress who starred in ONE MOVIE (with a no-name cast and a director who is past his prime). Even the beautiful Audrey Hepburn didn’t get that much attention for her first film, ROMAN HOLIDAY. To get that kind of recognition in Hollywood, you’d need at least 3 or 4 Oscar-worthy films/performances.

    Secondly, Simone was nominated twice in the same category (Leading Role) at the same Oscars ceremony. And, predictably, she won both awards in a shocking tie! Academy policies prevent that at an actor or actress be nominated in the same category in the same year, let alone win in a tie (a highly improbable occurence).

    Thirdly, with the ruthlessness of the paparazzi in the turn of the 21st century, you’d really expect that they WOULDN’T be able to track down an actress, and eventually find out that she was actually a computer-generated fabrication? TMZ can do that in their sleep. (Granted, TMZ still wasn’t founded at the time the movie was made, but you get the idea.)

    Forthly, to get a meteorically successful music career like Simone, you’re going to have to do more than Whitney Houston covers. No matter how amazing your voice is. Even Michael Buble (famous for doing those Sinatra covers) has several original songs up his sleeve.

    Lastly, Simone being named "Person of the Year" by Time magazine. A couple of movies, a singing career, a couple of talk show appearances is enough to get you that position? Wow, Time magazine has such low standards (in that movie, of course). I mean, she didn’t even do any charity or anything.

    To even remotely believe anything the movie has to offer, you have to swallow the possibility of an actress, so undeniably beautiful, talented and charming that she has to do hardly anything and still attain the "legend" status of the likes of Marilyn Monoroe.

    Ughhh. Terrible plot. Bad movie (IMO). UNBELIEVABLE PREMISE. What more can I say?

    Okay, I just had to get that out of my system.

  9. luttrell321
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    And here’s the proof:

    Simone’s Song at her Concert

    by iron92 (Sat Jul 9 2005 00:54:55)

    First of all, is there a name to that song? Does the song actually exist? If so, does anyone know where i can find it. (Like get the song and lyrics for it…) For some odd reason, i seem to really like the song and i have been watching her concert for a few days now (just rewinding and watching her sing that song…)

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258153/board/flat/22146497?p=1

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    A Masterpiece

    by Mr.Big (Fri Dec 7 2007 23:27:04)

    UPDATED Fri Dec 7 2007 23:30:29

    Genius. A masterpiece.

    The photography/wardrobe/props/acting is absolute perfection.

    The story is poured in hundred yard blocks of unblemished titanium.

    Re: A Masterpiece

    by slider_alt (Fri Apr 11 2008 17:20:25)

    Yeah, I loved this movie. I guess you have to be a person who really loves film and filmmaking to really appreciate this movie though.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258153/board/flat/91693705?p=1

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    Underrated

    by FrankyD45 (Sun Mar 27 2005 02:10:17)

    Crappy box office. The critics killed this movie – if it had a decent review then maybe it would have broke even. I found it entertaining and most I asked enjoyed it. Underrated movie. Plus S1mOne is smokin.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258153/board/flat/17136958?p=1

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    Don’t forget, people, this is a comedy.

    by NothingBeyondHudsonRiver (Wed Oct 18 2006 07:42:13)

    Forget about all the stupid plot holes. Just enjoy this movie as a comedy. Don’t try to analyze it. Sure it’s not an Oscar material, but when was the last time a comedy won an Oscar?

    Okay, I didn’t laugh my butt off, but it was funny enough.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258153/board/flat/56399035?p=1

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    Did we all watch the same movie? This movie is complete garbage. She tied herself for an Oscar? A hologram holding a microphone? Is that all just supposed to be comedy or something?

    Idiots like this movie. The end.

  10. Zetetics
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    Imagine the cash saved on entourages and tantrums…

  11. pmdawn
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    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9c_1219341209

    It is indeed easier to fool a hundred thousand people than just one.

  12. DJStahl2
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    Note above suggests that Pacino’s character, Victor Taransky, was based on a Hollywood second-unit director, Victor Tourjansky.

    I’d heard Taransky was based on the famous Russian auteur, Andrei Tarkovsky. Tarkovsky is called one of the greatest directors of all time. He may be best known for Solaris — later remade with George Clooney.

    Seems to fit. Pacino’s character is difficult, grandiose, and perfectionist. Haven’t heard that about Tarkovsky, but they say that about many of the auteur-types. Tarkovsky liked advanced technology. And Solaris is a powerful and influential science-fiction film. And one that also explores the boundary between perceived and objective reality. (See also Eternal Sunshine and Stranger Than Fiction for other such fun explorations.) Clearly science fiction is an interest of S1m0ne’s director, Andrew Niccol, in this and in Gattaca.

    Could be the Pacino character is a blend of both Tourjansky and Tarkovsky. But Tarkovsky seems a better fit.

    Incidentally, I thought S1m0ne was solid, well-made, excellently cast. Elias Koteas was particularly good. Not everyone can chew scenery to compete with Al Pacino in the same scene. Koteas might even have topped him.

    Rebecca Romijn upped her game, too, and so did Winona Ryder, both tearing it up and giving Pacino some real heat to bounce off. Nothing less pleasant for an actor like Pacino than to play opposite blocks of wood.

    Only quibble is that it was perhaps too topical. The concern about "synthespians" was very current back then, what with images of famous actors of yore performing in TV commercials, Final Fantasy, etc. Perhaps the upcoming Avatar may revive those worries. But there’s a faint movie-of-the-week excessive topicality that perhaps damaged it at the time with the critics. They generally like things more off the wall, like Little Miss Sunshine.

    And the somewhat high-concept science-fiction aspect, the angst, and the unsympathetic nature of the lead characters may have been too alienating for the mainstream box office. Have to look up whether Eternal Sunshine or Being John Malkovich did particularly well.

  13. burkhill
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    This film ripped off an episode of Arthur about a really popular band called Binky which turns out to be just a hologram.

  14. Anonymous
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  15. keyboardkath
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    In the trivia section, it says to keep watching after the credits. Why, is there an extra scene? I lost my copy of simone so i cant check it out myself.

  16. Anonymous
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  17. cancerparty
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    It spends almost its entirety trying to prove how Simone and Victor’s ploy could be gotten away with, and in the process destroys any chance the film has of ‘playing’ and being enjoyed by the audience.

    Now I’m not a ‘plot oriented’ person (look at the movies I post on for proof) but I’m sad to say it doesn’t hold up because all of the script’s and direction’s energy is thrown towards trying to show how this could be pulled off. And thus, the film never really gets out the gate, so to speak.

    It’s one of Pacino’s great performances, and I really love Niccol’s work.

  18. cjreilly
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    Am I the only person who noticed the similarities between Winona Ryder’s script reading and Namoi Watts’ reading in Mulholland Drive?

    1. They both are young women going a script reading with the "male" counterpart being an elder man

    2. Both script reading are about an illicit affair

    3. Both mention another man in the house and she will "call for help"

    4. Both end with a passionate, but desperate kiss.

    ???

    WHich came first?

  19. Allan-All-In
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    You know the Idea.. the Morale of loving something thats not real, of being obsessed is great..

    but mAN is this film stupid..

    an entire career and nobody ever sees her..

    and whats with the cops..when Al "kills" her shouldnt they have a birth certificate.. doesnt she need to exist to be killed?

    and its like his ex wife is in love with s1m0ne.. and nobody ever saw her.

    The ending is INSANE.. whats with the crazy wife?.. "lets do more than 1 simone" and even though as Al Pacino is on the edge of insanity he becomes happy when he is offered to move in with the ex wife.. WHO OBVIOUSLY only love him when things are going great for him..

    christ…

    hrmf!

  20. veryhornyfox
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    * Spoilers *

    I liked the film, there are some good wry jokes and cute moments and it´s a bit underrated.

    The actual plot isn´t full of holes per se but does strain credibility a little. At first they said they can´t use an unknown actress as there will be no box office, but then they DO use an unknown actress effectively, with Simone. So why not just use an unknown real actress instead of Simone? They tried to explain this a bit but not convincing.

    Then Simone turns out to be so spectacular because she´s created to be ´perfect´that she makes the movie a success the way an unknown actor wouldn´t…. mm OK, so I can just buy that maybe…

    But then why does Pacino not just tell the truth after 1 or 2 films – what he´s done would itself be a sensation – no need to commit fraud. But then this is explained away as because Simone is adored because people imagine her to be real and taking away the illusion would end the success.mm Ok then..

    At the end Pacino´s character´s daughter says he shouldn´t have lied, but then the three of them plot further lies.

    Looking at all this, I think the film works better if you treat it primarly as a satire of the obsession of the celebrity cult, and allow the character motivations to be moulded by where the story needs to go for the purposes of satire, and accept that, and that the plot is secondary.

    The bit about her going into politics at the end is just ridiculous if you take the film seriously in terms of plot, and only works as satire or simply a joke. Likewise the scene of the people collpasing into the pool almost seemed to scream out: "hello, satire!" in its silliness for those who hadn´t got it yet.

    In the Truman show though, everyone had believable motivations as characters and at the same time it worked as a satire, without having to play one off against the other, and that is one of the key reasons why Simone is good, but Truman was great.

  21. hellojuned1
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    I can not imagine what mede Al-Pacino to sign this *beep*

  22. Anonymous
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  23. s0uL-R1pp3r
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    why the movie title written down in leet lang

    am just carious

  24. metallicdragon
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    Was that suppose to be some kind of punishment? That having baby thing at the end?

  25. Dr_Gonzo_Starkweather
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    …with Viktor in the graveyard talking to Hank an then he has his revelation about killing Simone. From there on the film kinda bugged me, like it went off on a weird tangeant that didnt fit the rest of the film before it. I was hoping he would have killed her off in a car crash (ala James Dean), overdose (Marilyn Monroe) or killed by a fan (John Lennon). Obviously there would have been complications carrying these deaths out but I really think there would have been a much bigger emotional impact than what actually happened. At least he didnt make her eat herself to death…. (Elvis) lol.

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  26. Anonymous
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  27. vicky_lc2001-1
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    I’ve been going around and posting this link on every Pacino movie on this board. The video has affected me THAT much, it honestly was the most beautiful video I’ve seen of his. So please take the time to watch it and rate it. Much appreciated.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_zdggAycnk&feature=related

    Whenever I get the urge to exercise, I lie down until it passes.

  28. spiritofsupergirl
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    I haven’t watched this movie yet, but I think there’s a remarkable similarity to a 1985 anime called "Megazone 23". Both involve a computer-simulated pop idol.

    Thoughts?

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  29. punjabi_blood
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    Is Pacino overrated?

    Yes. He is.

  30. sephiroth3298
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    or is there only one or two songs that I have to put up with?

  31. morethanamoonwalker
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    Who fell for that? I did, since I was 8-9 y/o when this was released in Sweden, but a few years later, of course, I understood she was real… But I succeeded to fool my best friend when he was watching this for the first time!

    If you pee, I pee. Is that clear?

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  32. PeterBlues
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    in the car with "a doll driving". that looked insane and stupid, man, well, he did end up crashing into a housetrailer. or the doll.

    an empty window, where i should’ve been,

    years and years ago, but now its too late to go in,

    an old building, to wich i never arrived,

    today stands empty and rusty, as i look at it now,

    places i went instead,

    steps most would call stupead,

    and the place where i really should’ve gone,

    old stupid me look upon, as only an empty, dark window.

  33. Anonymous
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